Uncertainty, shame and no time for vacillation

What happens when we look back at earlier advanced civilizations? Is there a pattern of complexity, collapse and correction that we might recognize in today’s current events?

Do You Believe in Shame?

Do You Believe in Shame? (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Historically every advanced civilization has faced a downfall. Usually the downfall is routed internally.
The Roman Empire, which began as a Republic, lasted far longer than the recent Democratic Governments of Western Culture have to date. It did try to led to the extinction of certain ‘barbarian’ societies and considered itself the most civilised.

The fall of a particular hegemonic political system often brought the downfall of a society its culture.

Several times in history certain groups also brought in the idea that time had started to come to an end of a civilisation. In the past those civilisations needed to use austerity to
unbridle their economy, removing structurally parasitic practices which diverted investment from productivity. The love of power and money (1 Timothy 6:10), fanaticism, which is the root of all evil, brought down many people. {Vasos Panagiotopoulos}

Greed is a common denominator for the downfall of a civilisation. It has the ability to spread disease, famine, unstable politics, wage wars, etc. What types of greed do we see now? All of them.

Ethical standards coming down to nearly nil. In my articles on ‘sham’ (‘Schaamte’) I pointed out that we have come into an age were there is not much shame any more. Conditions of disgrace or dishonour, ignominy are not easily found these days. Rarely we can find people blushing, or having a confusion of mind because they said or did something or because they saw or heard some one else doing something. Instead of downward cast eyes, slack posture, and lowered head some persons are even proud of what they did, which an other would not dream of doing or would be afraid of doing or saying.

The “sense of shame” or the consciousness or awareness of shame as a state or condition seem to have gone into the old stories of the grand parents. Today there do not seem to exist a lot of instances were people get  an  experience of shame when television shows are screened or stand up comedians do certain movements on stage which would otherwise only be done in a seclude room or in the dark. Many show people do find it funny to bring sexual movements in front of the general public and to try to present as many situations of embarrassment, dishonor, disgrace, inadequacy, humiliation, or chagrin. It has become a sport to try to chock as much as they can. But by multiplying the sexual movements, the dirty hand and body movements, they have become for many youngsters the ‘normal talk’ of the day. They do not see any harm in it any more.

According to cultural anthropologist Ruth Benedict, shame is a violation of cultural or social values while guilt feelings arise from violations of one’s internal values. Thus, it is possible to feel ashamed of thought or behaviour that no one knows about and to feel guilty about actions that gain the approval of others.

Euro Crisis Explained

If Greece leaves, the threat of contagion among the other southern Euro states could break the 17-nation bloc.

Today it has become time that people start questioning how far the society may go in her confrontations and actions. It is high time that the inhabitants of the European Union start questioning the ethics it want to upkeep.

Many say that every society is to blame for what it has done and for which choices it made. Europe has to meditate about its choices it has made and is going to make in the near future.

To blame others or to show contempt for others in a unstable union may have it stagger even more, and bring it to a fall at any time. The inhabitants should now take the courage not to waver and should not vacillate in their decisions.

Europe may have to face traumatic events, but the ones in charge of the banks, people like Mariani and Jean-Luc Dehaene (Dexia) or those who brought Italy, Greece and Spain in financial chaos do not seem to have any feeling of shame. Most often it is because they do not find any reason to blame themselves for the event. They also have no desire to hide, to take a step down, to disappear, or even to die?. They want to be as Caesar Nero triumphant in the picture.

Those in Greeks who received allowances because they declared that they were blind and could not work, but enjoyed a job as taxi driver and did some plumbing were they could, do not feel any embarrassment or a disgrace that they helped to bring Greece in such a shamble.

‘It’s a shame’ many Greeks missed an opportunity or wasted a chance to build up their country, by doing honest work and not by defrauding the government = their own country. “Their game got rained out.”

Today we encounter again a ‘Cyclical imbalance’ we could see in many previous states and governing systems.

As long as the governments are not going to make work of giving their population the feeling that they are being treated fairly and that their taxes are being returned to them in
useful services, the Greeks and all the other Europeans with them shall be discontent and feel rightly unfairly treated.

On the other hand we see today the ‘bread and games’ attitude of the old Roman Empire back again. Greeks perhaps do not have a work ethic, like several Italians, and the government wants to please them (read: mislead them) with promising leisure and easiness of life.

According to Vasos Panagiotopoulos Greeks do not have a work ethic, instead promising leisure (Aristotle Politics 8.3) to rich and poor alike, the two distinguished only by serendipidous discovery of a Trojan Horse, Golden Key, or Mafia.
Lacking a work ethic like former communists, they think that profits are only possible if criminal and unethical. They do not appreciate that wealth forced to defend itself from jealous, “obschina” mediocrity promoters will not be deployed productively (Redfield Peasant 1956 p53,65,73). Luttmer (JPE109#3) showed that socialism exists when
racists societies deceive themselves as to their own homogeneity. The Delian League,
with intricate mortgage policies, was a predecessor to central banks (Day 1942 Columbia 57-61).

Classical Greece invented the Antikythera navigational computer, the Heronas steam  engine, and the naphtha-lime “Greek Fire” but their statist culture failed to provide the
incentives of patents or stock corporations to use these inventions to benefit humanity.” writes Vasos Panagiotopoulos, and we can wonder how it came that the country did not develop further.

Leo Strauss (Rebirth 1898 Chicago p21) wrote that western civilisation was shaped by the
dialectic between Athens philosophy and Jerusalem faith. Athens and Jerusalem matter, according Vasos Panagiotopoulos, because they were the dialectic between idealistic Asia and practical Europe (Edith Hamilton, Greek Way, 1991, p331; Treadgold, 1997, p xviii) , so claims of Greek westerness are exaggerated as Sparta colonised Italy while Athens colonised Russia (Splendid Exchange 2008 p46). The islands and Peloponese spent half the Ottoman period under Italians instead.

The Byzantine Calendar self-fulfillingly marked 7000 in 1492 with the end of Rome as Armageddon and Byzantium as the millenialist rapture. In 1868 and 2001 Greece exploited sharing currency with its neighbours to engage in megalomaniacal public
works and social policies, only to find itself bankrupt in 1893 and 2011. Those megalomaniacal public works were only too gladly built by the same Germans who were later so indignant over Greek debt (Tatsios Columbia p84). {Why Greece is Tea Party Favorite Whipping Boy https://sites.google.com/site/vasjpan2/Home/greekdebt.pdf}

Perhaps today we also are already some years in such a phase of history that the bell is ringing for the end of a generation.


Please do find:



Why Greece Isn’t Leaving the Eurozone Yet
All eyes are now on the possibility of a Greek exit from the eurozone. Indeed, it even has its own ridiculous portmanteau word—Grexit. Everyone from foreign financial institutions to the IMF is preparing for it, and the German government is telling anyone who’ll listen that it’s conceivable.
The key player in this phase of the drama is Alexis Tsipras, the 37-year-old leader of Syriza, the Coalition of the Radical Left. Syriza is, as the name suggests, a coalition built around Synaspismós and a few smaller left-wing parties.
If you keep the cash in your desk drawer, you’ll be spared the possibility of conversion. Even better, if you manage to move the money into a German bank account, you may even make money as the euro appreciates with the weaker states gone.
the situation is fertile territory for bluffing. Tsipras pretends it makes sense for Greece to demand a better deal, and Angela Merkel pretends it makes sense to let Germany walk away from the euro.


Has Endgame begun for Greece

Schaamte, schaamteloosheid en hebzucht

Dexia de Schaamte voorbij


  • Shame, Social Anxiety, and Psychosis (madinamerica.com)
    Researchers in England examined shame and social anxiety in a cross-sectional sample of people with and without psychosis. They found that social anxiety disorder (SAD) is “surprisingly prevalent among people with psychosis.”
  • Words: What drives you? Guilt, Fear & Shame (ryanadnin.wordpress.com)
    Guilt, Fear, Shame  … They are all factors of motivations, it makes people act, behave and do things in a certain way.
    Some people have gone to great lengths to try to cover up something small that is shameful, by one upping themselves and doing perhaps even more shameful things.
  • Greece and the Vatican: The Irony in Western civilisation (onedaringjew.wordpress.com)
    Greece, the cradle of Western civilisation, will in modern times perhaps bring about, ironically, European (and all of Western?) civilisation’s downfall. “Downfall?” you may ask. Surely, civilisation is much more than economics.
  • Vulnerability: The Only Way Out(freetobecourageous.wordpress.com)When we are in shame, we don’t see the big picture; we don’t accurately think about our strengths and limitations. (Brené Brow)
    if we want to fix this, we’ve gotta talk about it. We’ve gotta be honest with ourselves.  We’ve gotta be vulnerable.
  • A Cure for Shame that Works (ireport.cnn.com)
    You can’t bury it beneath big accomplishments, dress it up with fancy clothes or drive it away in a shiny car. Shame always seems to lurk just beneath the surface—beyond the reach of all the superficial remedies we’ve tried.
  • Letters: No easy solutions for Greece and the euro (guardian.co.uk)
    To keep Greece in the single currency, European taxpayers would have to write off around €60bn of the bailout loans they have made so far, pump in around €200bn to cut Greece’s €274bn debt to a sustainable size, and carry on subsidising its chronic overspending to the tune of €20bn a year in perpetuity. Better, surely, to get the pain over with so that people can at last invest confidently in the future.
    The missing factor in the Greek equation is what exit would do to European consciousness.
    The start of Ratko Mladic’s trial for war crimes as the euro crisis threatens to spin into a “doom loop” should give pause for thought. After the fall of the Soviet Union, the US effectively told the then European Community that Europe was its backyard and tried to withdraw from interfering. Yet the EC began a period of navel-gazing as the foreign ministers and heads of EC governments obsessed about drawing up the Maastricht treaties and introducing economic and monetary union and the euro.
    I attribute this failure to the low wages set by competition in free global labour markets and to the large current account surpluses of some low-wage and oil-producing nations.
  • No time for vacillation (nation.com.pk)
    As soon as the meeting of the US Generals with General Kayani was over, politicians started to notify the nation that the Nato supply routes would be opened. There is a debate on the national media about the pros and cons of this action with arguments tilted towards the US.
    we are pushed to the ‘Stone Age’ because of siding with the USA.
  • Shame ‘drove couple to kill child’ (express.co.uk)
    A couple murdered their “westernised” teenage daughter because they believed her conduct was bringing shame on the family, a court has heard.
  • NY Post Columnist: ‘Sense Of Shame Is Gone’ For Entitlement Recipients (mediaite.com)
    New York Post columnist Michael Goodwin appeared on Fox & Friends to discuss the increase in food stamp recipients and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s refusal to allow New York City to fingerprint residents who receive nutritional assistance to root out fraud. Goodwin said recipients of food stamps have ballooned while barriers to entry into the program have decreased; as a result, the “the sense of shame” among entitlement recipients is gone.
  • Shame (sabinianabalagtasbaliba.com)
    The letters are impossible to read on this blog, but by selecting it the text can be seen:
    Prelude: “What is shame to you?” as my English teacher, Dr. Theo Garneau kicked off with his lecture for our reading assignment on one of Aristotle‘s masterpieces, Shame.

About Marcus Ampe

Retired dancer, choreographer, choreologist Founder of the Dance impresario office and archive: Danscontact-Dansarchief plus the Association for Bible scholars, the Lifestyle magazines "Stepping Toes" and "From Guestwriters" and creator of the site "Messiah for all". - Gepensioneerd danser, choreograaf, choreoloog. Stichter van Danscontact-Dansarchief plus van de Vereniging voor Bijbelvorsers, de Lifestyle magazines "Stepping Toes" en "From Guestwriters" en maker van de site "Messiah for all".
This entry was posted in Crisis, Economy, History and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink.

13 Responses to Uncertainty, shame and no time for vacillation

  1. marcusampe says:

    In Scriptures we can find the goat as the king of Greece. … (Dan. 8:20-21) and than we do have the fourth and final kingdom mentioned: strong as iron… (Dan. 2:40) According to the records of history, this was the Roman Empire which would become fragmented: And as you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom… (Dan. 2:41-43)
    Rome is not going to stay. When the world is more fragmented, a stone comes, removes all the other kingdoms, and God’s kingdom is set up in their place: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever, {45} just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. … (Dan. 2:44-45)
    Looking at the wars started at the place of the Garden of Eden, Iraq – Iran, having religions fighting against other religions, global warming with more disasters in nature, we are able to see enough signs that we have come in the end times. It is high time to prepare our selves for the coming Kingdom of God, which surely shall come, even at a time when many do not expect it.
    Be prepared, be ready!


  2. Pingback: De politicus en schaamte | Marcus' s Space

  3. Pingback: Fear of God reason to return to Holy Scriptures « Christadelphians : Belgian Ecclesia Brussel – Leuven

  4. Pingback: Fear and protection « Christadelphians : Belgian Ecclesia Brussel – Leuven

  5. Pingback: Migrants to the West #8 Welbeing | Marcus' s Space

  6. Pingback: Migrants to the West #9 Where they came from | Marcus' s Space

  7. Pingback: Looking to the East and the West for Truth | Broeders in Christus

  8. Pingback: Some one or something to fear #7 Not afraid for Gods Name « Stepping Toes

  9. Pingback: Fear, struggles, sadness, bad feelings and depression | From guestwriters

  10. Pingback: Don’t be afraid to fall | From guestwriters

  11. Pingback: Summermonths and consumerism | From guestwriters

  12. Pingback: It’s Time real lovers of God to Stand and Speak Out! | From guestwriters

  13. Pingback: Grounded | From guestwriters

Feel free to react - Voel vrij om te reageren

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.