Zionism comments and the place of Jerusalem in the world

The world today faces more global problems and might face more strife or dispute, noisy quarrel or contention.

Today 7.9 million people live in Israel, 10 times the number at the country’s founding. Since early 2011, the winds unleashed by the Arab Spring have cast a chill over the Middle East, leaving Israel grappling with a radically transformed region where it believes its options are limited and poor.

The time of the argument, dispute and controversy about Zion was prophesied in the Bible Book Joel. Jewish people are brought back to the land of Israel.

“And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people…” It is the Lord’s hand. No matter what happens in the world, how people might go against the return of Jews to the Holy Land, it shall come to pass. Jerusalem is historically a Jewish city and the ancient capital of the Jewish people. The nations of the world should take note of this fact. The wise words of the Jewish teacher Gamaliel come to mind from the New Testament book of Acts, “But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.”

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan last week, told a United Nations forum in Vienna that the international community should consider Islamophobia a crime against humanity “like Zionism or anti-Semitism or fascism.”

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G-20 summit in Pittsburgh. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The next day, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel described Mr. Erdogan’s remarks as a “dark and false statement.”

According to a State Department official, the Turkish prime minister and Mr. Kerry discussed the gamut of Middle East issues, including the recent meeting in Rome on the Syria conflict, the situation in Iraq, Iran and the prospects for reviving the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians.

American officials did not provide details on the exchange regarding Mr. Erdogan’s Zionism comments or whether the Turkish prime minister believed they had in any way been excessive.

The two men, the State Department official said, had a “frank discussion of the prime minister’s speech in Vienna and how to move forward.”

Today, the nations find themselves fighting against God. All their schemes to remove the Jews from Jerusalem and Judah have failed.

According the newspaer The Guardian: “As described by Yuval Diskin, the former head of Israel‘s Shin Bet clandestine service, Netanyahu’s warmongering rhetoric against Iran is driven by his own “messianic” impulse, which is leading him to deliberately mislead the public in order to engineer a new conflict. That is a damning assessment of the worldview of arguably the most significant public proponent of war with Iran, whose efforts at manipulation have also directly targeted the American public. It also reveals a stunning contradiction between Netanyahu’s own positions and the assessments of the intelligence services actually tasked with monitoring Iran’s nuclear program is notable.”

In this light, Netanyahu’s push for war is clearly counter to the views of his own military and intelligence communities. That exposes the risk of handing the most gravely consequential of geopolitical decisions over to the calculations of ideologically-driven political leaders.

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2009 Benjamin Netanyahu campaign posters in Jerusalem. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald and Murtaza Hussain ‏ @MazMHussain write: “Given the immense political, humanitarian and economic disaster such a conflict with Iran would likely entail, it is imperative that those who seek a solution in good faith find ways to marginalize the rejectionists pushing for conflict as an outcome. Before it is too late.”

A big problem in the Middle East is that both sides shut their ears to the other’s views, resulting in a vicious circle of solipsism. Instead of a debate, there are two echo chambers, airlocked against doubt and nuance. An other problem lies by the Jews who do not want to fo deep into the words of God to see how they have to treat other deliverers.

According Matt Hill of the Telegraph both sides filter the facts through the lens of a simplified historical narrative that is all the more self-serving for being almost, but not quite, true. Israelis see the conflict as the latest phase in the Jewish people’s battle for survival against implacable foes. And Arabs see the conflict through the prism of colonialism, with Israel a reincarnation of the Western powers who for many years humiliated and exploited them.

There are real-world consequences to this wilful blindness. One of the more depressing episodes in the modern peace process occurred when Al Jazeera leaked thousand of official records of negotiations, which showed the Palestinians had been prepared to make far-reaching concessions for the sake of peace. But instead of demanding that Israel meet them halfway, anti-Israel journalists whipped up a storm over Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas’s “betrayal” of his people – forcing him to back away from compromise on sensitive issues like Jerusalem and refugees.

On university campuses and in the media, the conflict’s racial dimension gives the discussion a particularly nasty edge. It’s true that a few loathsome anti-Semites hide their hate under the “pro-Palestinian” banner. But that doesn’t excuse the way Israel’s apologists so readily resort to smearing their opponents as anti-Jewish – a charge that anybody who publicly criticises Israel soon gets used to. Not that the Left is any stranger to such tactics, with anyone who defends the Jewish character of Israel accused of supporting racial supremacism. While one side trumpets that Zionism equals racism, the other insists that anti-Zionism is racism.

“None of this means we ought to throw up our hands and simply split the blame equally between the two sides.” says Matt Hill (@MuddledEast) “But some simple principles can help introduce much-needed sanity to the debate. Most fundamentally, we must see that neither side has a monopoly on justice. Israel is fighting a just war of self-defence against Palestinian terror, and an unjust war for the conquest of the occupied territories. And the Palestinians are fighting a just war against the occupation, and an unjust war against Israeli civilians inside the 1967 lines. Both Israelis and Palestinians deserve to live in peace and security in a state of their own – not because they’re angels, but because they’re people who have nowhere else to go.”

The great Israeli writer Amos Oz has called the Israel-Palestine conflict “a tragedy in the ancient and most precise sense of the word: a clash between right and right”. He could just as easily have called it a dogfight between wrong and wrong says Matt Hill. “Either way we must do away with our caricatures of this conflict, and attempt to see the messy reality for what it is. Because in this game of cowboys and Indians, the casualties are real.”

Both parties may not forget that they may someday find themselves living in two states but that after that they shall have to live in one bigger global state. But for now, the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians takes place on the same land, which both claim as their own. And sometimes, it’s under the same roof.

According to several estimates, around half a million Israeli citizens live in 250 settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Last month, a report issued by United Nations Human Rights Council asking Israel to withdraw all settlers — because they “prevent the establishment of a contiguous and viable Palestinian State” — was criticized as “biased” and “counterproductive” by the Israeli Foreign Ministry.

Very few Israelis believe that Jerusalem should be included in any future peace negotiations with the Palestinians.

Yishai Fleisher, who hosts a popular radio show, maintains that the right to “Judaize” East Jerusalem is perfectly legitimate.

“I think that dividing this city in two states will not move us forward. We have to talk about one state and this is Israel, which is Jewish,” he said, speaking in his house in the settlement of Ma’aleh Hazaytim in East Jerusalem.“The Arabs, as all minorities here, would have every right to housing, education and health assistance.”

Both Al-Kurd and Fleisher repeated several times that Arabs and Jews are not against each other and that they can live in peace, though the situation on the ground belies their words.

But now, as the legal battles and the neighbour-to-neighbour grudges continue on the ground, the ball is again in the politicians’ court.

Read more:

Why we must resist Netanyahu and the hawks’ reckless push for war on Iran

The good-and-evil caricatures of the Israel-Palestine conflict are costing lives

A Scathing EU Report calls for Sanctions on Israel over the Issue of East Jerusalem and the Settlements

Turkey's Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan  during a news conference after the opening session of the fifth United Nations Alliance of Civilizations Forum in Vienna February 27, 2013. (Reuters / Heinz-Peter Bader)

Turkey’s Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan during a news conference after the opening session of the fifth United Nations Alliance of Civilizations Forum in Vienna February 27, 2013. (Reuters / Heinz-Peter Bader)


  • Erdogan’s Statement More than Just ‘Objectionable’ (jewishpress.com)
    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Friday waded into the controversy over comments by Turkey’s prime minister equating Zionism to a crime against humanity, rebuking the leader of the NATO ally by saying such remarks complicate efforts to find peace in the Middle East.Kerry said the Obama administration found the statements by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan “objectionable” and he stressed the “urgent need to promote a spirit of tolerance, and that includes all of the public statements made by all leaders” at a news conference in Ankara with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu.“We not only disagree with it; we found it objectionable,” Kerry said.
    The truth is that the Jewish people suffered centuries of oppression and mistreatment in their diaspora, and finally succeeded in returning home. In a rare moment of collective moral clarity, the nations of the world recognized the rightness of this solution to the ‘Jewish problem’ and implemented it in the declaration of the Palestine Mandate. Although this moral moment was short — the British quickly fell back into darkness and tried to prevent  the creation of a Jewish state — it came into being despite their efforts.

    Israel is accused of targeting children and noncombatants, committing terrorism, establishing an apartheid regime, being racist. But of course it is (for example) the PLO, Hamas and Hizballah who target civilians and children, and who are proud to announce that when ‘Palestine’ is declared, no Jews will live in it.

    Self-defense by Jews is particularly offensive to their enemies — because, you see, how dare we claim to have a right of self-defense when we are not on the same level of humanity as our attackers — so Erdoğan was especially infuriated by the short Gaza war of 2008-9, and even more by the self-defense by Israeli commandos against the thugs that tried to kill them on the deck of the Mavi Marmara.

  • Israel, Turkey row over Zionism deepens rift between ex-allies (Reuters) (newsdaily.com)
    “Just as with Zionism, anti-Semitism and fascism, it has become impossible not to see Islamophobia as a crime against humanity,” Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said at the U.N. Alliance of Civilisations forum, according to Turkish media reports.
  • Netanyahu calls out Erdogan on ‘dark, libelous’ characterization of Zionism (rt.com)
    The group argued that such statements by the Turkish leader “will only strengthen the belief that his government is hewing to a confrontational stance, and fundamentally unwilling to end its four-year-old feud with Israel.”
  • Latest News Syria: ‘No Prizes for Erdogan’ (latestnewssyria.wordpress.com)
    ‘Netanyahu blasts Erdogan for ‘dark and slanderous’ remarks on Zionism’
  • Is Erdogan An ‘Anti-Zionist’? (ttomas625.wordpress.com)
    In Turkey, however, the term “Zionism” is almost always taken as synonymous with its most radical version, and is perceived as the plan to permanently occupy the whole “the Land of Israel,” while suppressing or destroying the native Arab population. In this sense, Zionism only implies humiliation, death and destruction of the Palestinians, a people for whom the overwhelming majority of the Turks have genuine sympathy.
  • Israel, Turkey row over Zionism deepens rift between ex-allies. (greatriversofhope.wordpress.com)
  • PressTV: Netanyahu fumes over Erdogan’s anti-Zionism remarks (jhaines6.wordpress.com)
    newspaper Radikal said recently that secret meetings had been held between Israeli and Turkish officials and Tel Aviv might apologize for “operational errors” during the fatal raid.
  • Arab woman attacked by Jewish women in Jerusalem (theuglytruth.wordpress.com)

    "בחורי ישיבה צעקו לערבייה 'אין לך מה לחפש פה'" (צילום: דורית יורדן דותן)

    Group of young Jewish girls attack Arab woman in J’lem; ‘Religious woman punched her face,’ says passer-by; police investigate possible nationalistic motives

  • A seat for the Pope at King David’s tomb (seeker401.wordpress.com)
    The Israeli authorities have granted the Pope an official seat in the room where the Last Supper is believed to have taken place, on Mount Zion in Jerusalem, and where David and Solomon, Jewish kings of Judea, are considered by some researchers, to also be buried.It is the culmination of a long campaign by the Catholic Church to regain religious stewardship over the place where Jesus is supposed to have broken bread and drunk wine with his disciples on the eve of his crucifixion.
    The Catholic Church has long wanted control over part of the area on Mt. Zion so as to turn it into an international religious center for Catholics. The blueprint of the agreement reads as follows: “The Vatican hands over this use of the Cenacle to the Custody of the Holy Land which will keep the Cenacle open from 6 AM to 8 AM for the celebration of the Holy Mass”.In the long term, the gesture will increase tensions between Jews and the large assets of the Vatican. The Church has long been working to reduce Jewish rights in Jerusalem and in the Old City. Now, after the Muslim Waqf authority expelled the Christians from the Temple Mount and turned it into a mosque, it’s the turn of the Vatican to lay its hands on the Jewish Jerusalem.
  • ‘Proof Israel Belongs to the Jews’ (jpfinn7.wordpress.com)
    If one believes the Bible, the land of Israel clearly belongs to the Jewish people. The Bible also teaches in many places that those who oppose Israel oppose God and will be cursed. Past history shows that every Nation that has gone up against Israel has been destroyed.
    Israel is called by God “The Apple of His Eye” and anyone who stands against Israel, stands against God almighty. Zechariah 2:8-9 “And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.”

About Marcus Ampe

Retired dancer, choreographer, choreologist Founder of the Dance impresario office and archive: Danscontact-Dansarchief plus the Association for Bible scholars, the Lifestyle magazines "Stepping Toes" and "From Guestwriters" and creator of the site "Messiah for all". - Gepensioneerd danser, choreograaf, choreoloog. Stichter van Danscontact-Dansarchief plus van de Vereniging voor Bijbelvorsers, de Lifestyle magazines "Stepping Toes" en "From Guestwriters" en maker van de site "Messiah for all".
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13 Responses to Zionism comments and the place of Jerusalem in the world

  1. SingleFocus says:

    This is obviously a conflict that only God can conclude. I personally believe that some of the people are being used and deceived. The devil is a master at stirring up conflict. So many are so focused on differences between nationalities of people that they are missing the hand of God and His Word being accomplished while they continually wake up on the wrong side. As for me, I’m going to stay on the LORD’s side.


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