Explosive situation in Egypt part of what was said in old times

Egypt’s ex-vice president Mohamed ElBaradei is to face trial on charges of breaching national trust after resigning last week.

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Mr. Mohamed Badia -General Guide of Muslim Brotherhood- during opening ceremony of Alexandria Muslim Brotherhood main office العربية: الأستاذ محمد بديع -المرشد العام للإخوان المسلمين- خلال حفل افتتاح مقر الإخوان المسلمين بالإسكندرية (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The most senior leader in Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, Mohammed Badie, has been arrested in Cairo. Mr Badie, who was wanted over alleged incitement to violence and murder, has been temporarily replaced as “general guide” by his deputy, Mahmoud Ezzat.

Meanwhile the violence continues and many innocent civilians are killed, getting the country no step further in the good direction or bringing a solution.

Before the emergency talks in Brussels meeting Baroness Catherine Ashton said:

English: Baroness Ashton of Upholland, British...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland, British politician (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

“It is about finding a formula for Europe to help Egypt get from where it is now to where a vast majority of the people say they want to be.

“That’s going to be done by a political process and Egypt will need help to get there. And we are ready to help if they so wish.”

The foreign ministers met after a week in which more than 900 people, including 100 soldiers and police, have died in Egypt’s political violence.

Going into the EU meeting, Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt deplored the violence in Egypt, saying “primary responsibility rests with the regime forces”.

He called it “an unprecedented wave of repression and violence” and added: “It’s very important that Europe speaks up.”

He said he would not be arguing for a suspension of aid, but “we are clearly not sending taxpayers’ money to people responsible for massacres”.

Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans urged the powerful EU bloc to stick to its principle of “more aid for more democracy”, or as he put it “in this case less-for-less”.

“The Netherlands wants the means at the EU level for further suspending aid and the criteria for possible resumption,” he said in a note to parliament.

But he added that “lines of communication with both the authorities and the opposition must be kept open so that the EU can exert sufficient influence and have enough leverage.”

After the emergency talks Lady Ashton said EU governments “feel very strongly that they want to continue to support vulnerable people in Egypt”.

Lady Ashton said the EU would review its assistance to Egypt and was urging all sides to “stop the violence and provocations” and “engage in inclusive national dialogue, open to all”.

“All ministers have been reflecting the strong condemnation of the disproportionate acts of the Egyptian security forces”. said England’s foreign Secretary William Hague.

In July, Baroness Ashton became the first foreign official to meet deposed President Mohamed Morsi after he was ousted by the army, taken into detention and placed under investigation on charges including murder.

The EU’s subsequent mediation efforts, conducted jointly with the US, collapsed earlier in August.

Underlining unease in the West over how to respond to the crisis in Egypt, the White House said on Tuesday that media reports stating it had cut off aid to Egypt were inaccurate.

However, the White House confirmed that the US policy on aid to Egypt was under review.

The US government gives $1.5bn (£965m) each year to Egypt, with $1.3bn (£836m) of that going to the military.

Arms are provided by individual countries rather than the EU as a whole, mostly by Germany, France and Spain. The UK has already suspended some of its military help.

The last few month we have nothing else seen than Syrians fighting Syrians and Egyptians are fighting Egyptians. Egypt is polarised and many are willing to die for their cause. This ongoing situation is one which we may find described in very old books where is spoken of the  ancient territory of the king of the south is wracked with violence. The ancient territory of the king of north (Syria) is also wracked with violence.

Coincidence? Andy Walton asks and discusses many more incidents of the last weeks and months in the light of the Biblical prophesies we may see coming to happen.

It is part of the steps spoken of in Daniel 11 whereby the old king of the north and the old king of the south are replaced by the NEW. Russia and Britain/USA respectively.
Jesus said that before he returned we would see the world as it was in the days of Noah. The world then was full of violence. He also said that we would see people rising up against people (revolution) – leading to nation rising up against nation (war).

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EU states debate response to Egypt’s deadly crisis

EU suspends arms sales to Egypt over crackdown
Last November the EU pledged a 5bn-euro (£4.3bn) aid package for Egypt. It consists of 1bn directly from the EU, with the rest from the EU-associated European Investment Bank and European Bank for Reconstruction and Development. But most is already frozen because of EU concerns about corruption in Egypt.

EU Ministers Condemn Violence In Egypt
The Obama administration has said it was reviewing US aid to its long-time ally in the Middle East in light of the overthrow of Mr Morsi and the ongoing crackdown on his Muslim Brotherhood supporters.

Egypt Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohammed Badie held
Egypt has not been meeting the conditions to receive such aid, so most of it is already frozen. The EU will not release it unless there is progress in fighting corruption and boosting transparency in Egypt.

The EU says it has sent about 450m euros to Egypt in the last three years.

However, this money is not going to the government: it is being spent on projects to improve sanitation and water supplies, and to help towards construction of the Cairo underground train system.

In 2013 only 16m euros has been paid to the Egyptian government out of the 1bn euros in EU development funding earmarked for Egypt for 2007-2013.

Separately, the EU has allocated about 23m euros to non-state civil society groups in Egypt.

EU military aid is worth about 140m euros a year, compared to US defence aid worth a much greater $1.3bn (1bn euros; £0.8bn). The US also gives about $250m in other assistance.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait recently pledged $12bn in aid.

  • EU’s Peace and Security Council discusses Egypt (dailynewsegypt.com)
    High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton talks with Bulgarian Foreign Minister Kristian Vigenin prior to an extraordinary EU Foreign Affairs Council at the European Headquarters in Brussels..
  • PressTV: EU agrees to suspend sale of arms, security goods to Egypt (jhaines6.wordpress.com)
    It amazes me how this upsets them, when they show little care for all the others dying at their hands! Am I crazy? Could it be that Egypt is no longer marching lockstep to their orders? ~J
  • EU ministers agree to suspend weapon deliveries to Egypt (en.trend.az)
    The member states would “suspend export licences to Egypt of any equipment which might be used for internal repression,” foreign ministers agreed at talks in Brussels. The final decisions would be taken at national level, not by the EU as a whole, Ashton said.
  • Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohammed Badie arrested in Egypt (washingtontimes.com)
    The 70-year-old Mr. Badie had been a fugitive since an arrest warrant was issued last month on charges of incitement to violence and murder.

    Hundreds of supporters of the Brotherhood have been arrested and hundreds more killed since the military-backed government cracked down last week on protests against the July 3 ouster of Brotherhood-backed President Mohammed Morsi.

    The government has declared a state of emergency and is openly considering trying to dissolve the Muslim Brotherhood, a movement that espouses political Islam and the imposition of religious law.

  • Foreign minister meets with EU envoy and UN official in Cairo (dailynewsegypt.com)
    Interim Minister of Foreign Affairs Nabil Fahmy  (AFP Photo)

    nterim Minister of Foreign Affairs Nabil Fahmy
    (AFP Photo)

    Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy met with a European Union (EU) envoy headed by EU Ambassador James Moran in Cairo on Tuesday to discuss the future of EU-Egypt relations.

    The meeting came one day ahead of the EU convening an “extraordinary” Foreign Affairs Council meeting at its Brussels headquarters to discuss how its members will respond to the current situation in Egypt.

    In his meeting with Moran, Fahmy expressed “shock” at the EU failing to release a statement strongly condemning “terrorist acts,” include the burning of police stations and churches and the attacks on security troops in Sinai that have left 25 dead, according to a statement from the ministry of foreign affairs.

    The minister also emphasised to the EU envoy that the Egyptian government has the right to protect its citizens from “violence and terrorism.” He added that it is vital for the transitional roadmap to progress uninterrupted by these attacks in order for Egypt to establish a democratic state.

  • Egypt court to mull Mubarak release (bbc.co.uk)
    Mr Mubarak is appealing against his detention on a corruption charge.

    The 85-year-old is also being retried on charges of complicity in the killing of protesters during the uprising that forced him from power in 2011.

  • EU halts sale of arms to Egypt in response to violence (fsn.typepad.com)
    Foreign Ministers from the 27 nation bloc met on wednesday to decide on a common reaction to clashes in the country which saw Egyptian security forces use violence against hundreds of supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi last week.

    European countries are set to consider ways to curb military ties with Egypt bilaterally, meanwhile the EU will continue to send humanitarian aid, but reasses paying out other previously pledged EU grants.

    Our Europe correspondent Sandra Gathmann says cutting EU aid was an unpopular response measure.

  • Foreign minister meets with EU envoy in Cairo (dailynewsegypt.com)
    Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy met with a European Union (EU) envoy headed by EU Ambassador James Moran, in Cairo on Tuesday to discuss the future of EU-Egypt relations.

    The meeting came one day ahead of the EU convening an “extraordinary” Foreign Affairs Council meeting at its Brussels headquarters to discuss how its members will respond to the current situation in Egypt.

  • Europe convenes crisis talks on Egypt (channelnewsasia.com)
    A French diplomat speaking on condition of anonymity said “should we decide to suspend this or that project we risk penalising Egyptian people above all. We could also review defence or security agreements but even that is complicated.”

    “We can’t act as if nothing has happened, but at the same time we need to be careful not to be counter-productive.”

About Marcus Ampe

Retired dancer, choreographer, choreologist Founder of the Dance impresario office and archive: Danscontact-Dansarchief plus the Association for Bible scholars, the Lifestyle magazines "Stepping Toes" and "From Guestwriters" and creator of the site "Messiah for all". - Gepensioneerd danser, choreograaf, choreoloog. Stichter van Danscontact-Dansarchief plus van de Vereniging voor Bijbelvorsers, de Lifestyle magazines "Stepping Toes" en "From Guestwriters" en maker van de site "Messiah for all".
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